Jacob Cayer interview at focus of Day 2 testimony

Prosecutors say Cayer killed his ex-girlfriend Sabrina Teague, 25, and Sabrina’s mother, Heesun “Sunny” Teague, 63.
Published: Aug. 11, 2020 at 8:54 AM CDT
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GREEN BAY, Wis. (WBAY) - The sergeant who interviewed Jacob Cayer prior to his arrest for a deadly stabbing attack in Hobart spent hours on the witness stand Tuesday morning as the prosecution and defense focused in on what they discussed that night.

Cayer is standing trial on two counts of 1st Degree Intentional Homicide and one count of Attempted 1st Degree Intentional Homicide for the June 7, 2016 stabbing attack on the Teague home in Hobart.

Prosecutors say Cayer killed his ex-girlfriend Sabrina Teague, 25, and Sabrina’s mother, Heesun “Sunny” Teague, 63.

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On Tuesday, Brown County Sheriff’s Office Sgt. Zachary Holschbach was the first to take the stand. He interviewed Jacob Cayer after the murders. Holschbach testified that he first came in contact with Cayer in the Emergency Room, and Cayer was “covered in dry-brownish/red, consistent with blood.” Holschbach stated that Cayer was handcuffed to a gurney. The sergeant stated that he wanted to assess Cayer to see if he was capable of talking to him. Holschbach testified that if he believed Cayer was not able to have a conversation or respond coherently, he would have waited to interview him. However, he stated that was not the case. He read Cayer his Miranda Rights.

The interview lasted about 10 hours. Cayer talked about a family scene in which is father was yelling and mother was crying. During the interview, Cayer stated that the “ketamine must be wearing off.” Ketamine had been given to him by medical staff.

During that 10-hour interview, Cayer talked about women who had “wronged him.” He claimed Sabrina Teague was “blackmailing his family.” He claimed Sabrina had accused him of rape. Cayer said he was angry about that because it upset his mother.

Cayer told Holschbach that he was “sick of women treating him like s---.”

Cayer drew a diagram of the scene to describe what happened. Holschbach recalled that Cayer said the attack on Sabrina started in the garage and then moved outside toward some foliage at the fence. Cayer said Sabrina fell. In court, the prosecution played video of Cayer re-enacting what he believed he did to Sabrina.

When Cayer was booked on charges of 1st Degree Intentional Homicide, he had no surprise or reaction response, Holschbach testified.

The defense asked Holschbach if he believed Cayer was mentally competent to be interviewed at the time. The defense asked if Cayer expressed confusion about what happened. Holschbach replied, “Yes, he expressed confusion.”

On Monday, survivor Joel Kennedy was the first to take the witness stand after opening statements.

Kennedy, who was dating Sabrina Teague at the time of the attack, identified Cayer as the man who attacked them on June 7, 2016.

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Kennedy testified that he and Sabrina arrived at Sunny’s home that evening to check in on her. Kennedy says the shower was running. Sabrina went to check on her mother and found her in the bathroom with stains on the floor. He says Cayer emerged from a laundry room and attacked them.

Kennedy says Cayer attacked Sabrina before stabbing him with a kitchen knife. Kennedy testified that he put up his arm and the blade went through. His chest was also injured. Kennedy fell back and started kicking and punching. Cayer went after Sabrina and Kennedy ran to the garage to get a shovel. Cayer and Sabrina followed to the garage. Kennedy grabbed a shovel and hit Cayer in the face with it. Kennedy ran inside the home, locked the door and called 911. While in the home, he saw a body in the bedroom wrapped in a blanket. He believed that to be Sunny Teague.

The defense questioned Kennedy about what they describe as “inconsistencies” in his statements and the timeline of the attack. On the stand, Kennedy said Sabrina was attacked first. His initial statement said he was attacked first.

The defense also asked Kennedy about why he was carrying a knife. Kennedy said that he worked at Burger King and used the knife to break down boxes. Kennedy said the knife was also for self-protection.

The defense also asked Kennedy why he ran inside the home after hitting Cayer with the shovel. “I don’t know,” Kennedy answered. He said it happened very fast and he was responding on instinct.

Brown County Deputy Raska testified that he found stab wounds on Sabrina Teague. He checked for a pulse but found no sign of life. He attempted CPR but it was too late.

After the attack, Cayer was found in some nearby woods in a “curled up” position.

A Brown County deputy testified Monday that Cayer’s hands were “bloody” and his clothing was “saturated with blood.”

Hobart-Lawrence Police Officer Randy Randloff testified that he responded to Joel Kennedy’s 911 call. Randloff said there was “blood everywhere” in the Teague home.

During the afternoon, Medical Examiner Dr. Vincent Tranchida took the stand, where he described multiple scraatches and bruises, as well as at least seven stab wounds - including o Sabrina’s head, chest, lung, and heart, were found.

Dr. Tranchida said the wound went through the right ribs, and a stab wound went through the right lung, hit the parachardial sac that surrounds the heart and hit the aorta, which is a very significant stab wound, and is just one that led to Sabrina’s death.

“The manner of death of Sabrina Teague is homicide,” said Dr. Tranchida.

He added Heesun Teague’s autopsy showed multiple types of injuries, including dozens of bruises, scratches, stabbing and strangulation.

“Heesun Teague had injuries consistent to compression of neck, both ligature, hands and using a cord,” said Dr. Tranchida. “This was the ligature or rope that was recovered from Heesun Teague’s neck.

Tranchida also examined a tire iron found at the crime scene, and said “I believe during the assault of Heesun Teague, the yellow rope and the tire iron were used.”

Dr. Tranchida ruled Heesun’s death a homicide, noting the injuries she suffered led to her ‘drowning in her own blood’.

“Homicidal violence, including stab wounds of torso, blunt force trauma and compression of the neck,” said Dr. Tranchida.

After. Dr. Tranchida finished testifying, the state called a school classmate and neighbor of Cayer to the stand, who also knew Sabrina Teague through a group of friends, and said Cayer stayed with her for awhile when she lived in Green Bay.

Afterwards, the state called another law enforcement official, Sgt. Monica Janke, to testify. Janke formerly served the Brown Co. Sheriff’s Office, and she did part of the interview with Cayer at the hospital.

During the testimony, video taken by the now retired Sgt. Janke was shown to the jurors, which displayed Cayer’s injuries in the hospital, including cuts and scratches to his back, hands and fingers.

The final person to take the stand Tuesday was Katie Hoffmeyer, who works at the Wisconsin State Crime laboratory, and is a crime scene response team leader.

Hoffmeyer stated after walking through the crime scene, she called in more crime scene leaders from both Milwaukee and Madison, and stated more than 1,700 pictures were taken of the scene.

Hoffmeyer went on to say it was one of the more ‘expansive’ crime scenes she had ever documented, and that it is unusual to call in other crime scene leaders from around the state to help.

Hoffmeyer was the last person to take the stand Tuesday, and jurors will report back at 8:30 a.m. on Wednesday.

During opening statements, Brown County District Attorney Dave Lasee said Jacob Cayer turned the Teague home into a “real life horror movie.” Lasee said the scene was gruesome and there was “blood everywhere.” Lasee said Cayer killed Sunny Teague with a tire iron before going after Sabrina and Joel Kennedy.

The defense asked jurors to keep an open mind and to remember there are “two sides to every story.” Defense Attorney Anthony Cotton says Cayer may take the stand.

Cayer’s trial is scheduled to go through Friday, Aug. 14. Brown County Circuit Court Judge Tammy Jo Hock is presiding.

Cayer has been in and out of competency since charges were filed in 2016. Last November, a judge ordered Cayer to a mental health institution and to take medication against his objections.

Cayer demanded to be found competent and for his trial to move forward. The court ruled he was competent to stand trial.

Cayer has been through several attorneys, which has also delayed the case.

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